Tony with Inoculation Talks Sci-fi Riffs and Xeno Guitars with Rasan

Ever wonder how a 12-minute epic about an alien invasion comes to life? Here's the behind-the-scenes story of Inoculation's Earthbound EP

I caught up with Tony from Inoculation and learned that Earthbound was born from their love for giant prog epics like Rush & Dream Theater. They wanted to create something that tells a full story — not just a quick hook. The result? A 12-minute musical journey about alien invasions, crafted over 4-6 months of intense work. And their artwork? Inspired by ancient celestial drawings, designed by Tanner Pair — who captures that mysterious space vibe without the cheesy green aliens. It's raw, authentic, and totally their own style. Here's the kicker: Making long songs may seem wild, but it’s how they tell their biggest stories. Maybe it’s time to craft your own story in your music or art.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

All right, what's up, Ohio? She treads with Rassanne and I finally get to talk to the lovely Anthony or Tony as he goes by with the band Inoculation. They're a really cool kick-house death metal band out of Cleveland, Ohio. And we're going to talk to them about their new EP that they've got out called Earthbound and uh talk about where they're going because they had a little setback recently that they just overcome. Anyways, thanks for being on my show, Tony. I really appreciate it. And for you being uh patient with my technical difficulties. I'm not the most tech savvy person. Of course I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

I'm the same way, same way. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

All right, cool. Yeah, I was I was kind of sweating it because it's like, man, what am I doing wrong? I've I've done this before. I've had plenty of episodes on here, but what I didn't realize is going back and forth with my settings if I've been live in person or doing it this way. Um, yeah, there's a little things for me to finagle along the way. So definitely uh learning moments for me made me feel like a baby. So the reason why I did reach out to you guys because you were nominated by Dan Gates of Thicker Blood. Yeah. So I had him on last month and talked to him, and I was like, Well, who would you nominate? And he thought for a few seconds and he was like, inoculation, those guys are really cool, kick ass for sure. So shout out to Dan Gates for the nomination.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Oh yeah. Yeah, he's been he's been doing it forever. Uh Hyundai's in the 90s.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Uh he's an OG with the He is, definitely, definitely the OG. Yeah. Yeah. When I was talking to him, I was like, you know, what was your inspiration? He's mostly stuck with metal along the way. He's definitely OG for sure with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

He definitely he just went to, I forget the band that he was with, but he just got back from like they were over in Finland. And yeah, it looks like they got small and they went to Stockholm and all kinds of stuff. So let's talk about inoculation. I like it because um on your Facebook I saw somewhere it said shake your ass to some sci-fi rifts. I thought that was pretty cool. And uh I was checking out some of your videos too that you had, and um just the the imagery that is in there and the production is pretty cool. Yeah, so go ahead and tell me about your new EP released, Earthbound. You guys released that in February, right? February 27th of this year. Yep. So tell us what's uh what all's on Earthbound.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

So um Earthbound, uh, it all came about from uh me loving like uh Prague, Rush, Dream Theater, Symphony X, uh stuff like that, where there'd be like epic 20, 15-minute songs. For some reason, I always thought that was like super cool because it's just like telling like a whole big tale instead of just like a little snippet of like a story. So I always wanted to do that musically and lyrically. Um that was something I personally always wanted to do ever since I started the band. And we were planning on uh going independent because we left our label that we were with, Maggot Stomp, all felt good with them, but we just wanted uh we'd been with them for a very long time and wanted a fresh start. So we kind of wanted something to like kind of put out there as like a a fresh start inoculation and we had this 12-minute song. So we did that, and then we we had the 12-minute song recorded, Earthbound is the song, and the EP name, and then we kind of wanted to do something else with it too. We didn't want to just put out uh one song, um, we wanted to make it a little bit cooler. Um, so the first half is Earthbound, uh, and then the second half is like five live songs that we tracked in Cleveland at a show at uh no class. So that's also our first. We I don't have any like live recordings out there. So kind of just uh something like fun to do. This really was like a fun release to like just get ourselves out there again and uh do some different stuff.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Well, let's talk too about the the members of the band. So we've got you, Tony, and you play guitar and do vocals. Um then Charlie Winters, who does drums and vocals, and Nick, um, is it Nedley? Yep, yep. Okay, and he does the bass and vocals. So how long did it take for you guys to put together the Earthbound?

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Um, I'm gonna say it was probably probably about like four to six months of like writing, like on and off a little bit. Like we, you know, we play a show, we'd have to practice with set a couple times before a show or whatever. So it kind of was like in there, and we were working on it when we had time in between tours, but we spent a lot of time uh working on it for sure, especially lyrically, which Nick handled mostly. Most of the lyrics are me and Nick in general. Nick mostly, and then I sprinkle in a little lyrics here and there too.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Okay, yeah, that was gonna be one of my questions.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Yeah, and we and even like Charlie does write lyrics too. He had a couple songs on um our previous full-length actuality that he did uh lyrics for. But with Earthbound specifically, it was pretty much entirely Nick, but we really like together before he wrote the lyrics, kind of like storyboarded it. Like came up with like a plot that we liked, which the song is about an alien invasion onto Earth, with uh surprisingly enough for how many releases we've done and how obsessed we are with aliens. This is our first song about an alien invasion. So we were like, oh my god, this I can't believe we haven't done that yet. So it was fitting to put that with such an epic long song, uh, because it's such like a we I was surprised that wasn't on our first album lyrically.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

I really like the artwork too that was on the album because I know it's um, you know, you you're talking about it was uh, you know, alien invasion related, but the artwork, it's I feel like it went back to me, just me personally, it reminded me of like looking at ancient time artwork and drawings um and things where you know, some people have always wondered, you know, were they trying to tell us about some celestial beings? So that's what the artwork reminded me of.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

That's awesome. I love that that uh reminded you of that.

SPEAKER_01 6:44

Yeah, it really did. Who who did the artwork? I know I saw that somewhere in your band camp, but I didn't write his name down. Um his name is uh Tanner Fair.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Uh he goes by Moribund Art, M-O-R-I-B-U-N-D. He's a super sick artist out of like Indianapolis area, Fort Wayne, I think. Um and we have worked with him before on some t-shirt art, and we really liked what he was doing. And we thought he would be good for the earthbound art, and I think he killed it. Uh and we went with like not exactly like from the art, you can't really tell it's like an alien invasion uh song.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Well, it's not your typical. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

There's not like spaceships in the sky, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

Yeah, it's not like the round head with the stick body and the green, yeah, the green megamind or blue megamind looking.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

Beings, aliens are like on the streets attacking like everyday citizens and people in their like there's a car in the in the shot that's like being destroyed and like taken over. So it's like a glimpse of a little bit more into the invasion because the song fully goes, it starts out with like seeing the chips in the sky, and then it goes all the way to like the aliens destroying the earth, and uh it's about taking uh the aliens coming down, and they want the human blood, and that's what they use for like a fuel. So they're like harvesting all the blood.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Do you guys believe in aliens?

SPEAKER_02 8:21

Oh, 100%, 100%. They're out there for sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

Oh yeah, oh yeah. So um now I don't want to get too off topic for you because I want to talk about your music and everything, but real quick, do you believe in Bigfoot?

SPEAKER_02 8:35

That's interesting. That's an interesting one. Um first of all, any conspiracy theory, I'd like to enter. I am down to entertain the possibility. I'm always gonna hear it out before I'm skeptical on anything. Because I just think I think the possibility of there being a Bigfoot is so cool. And I would love for the be there to be a Bigfoot. I think that might be one I'm a little bit more skeptical on. So I would, it's a hard maybe for me on that one. I do think that if Bigfoot is real, that he's more of like a spiritual, like interdimensional being than we think of. And I think if he were to be real, he's going through like portals that are in the earth, and that's how that's why you never see him. Because you're like, how would this like 12-foot creature like not be seen all the time? It's because he's hopping through these portals, portals, so and just keeps getting noticed, and then yeah. And then poof, he's gone.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

Well, I asked that because um I just read somewhere recently where um they were saying that one of the major pictures or footage of Bigfoot that they found out is not real. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Yeah, I feel like that always goes.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Just talking about all the aliens and stuff made me think of that to ask, but I I didn't read too much into it.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

There was a bunch of Bigfoot sightings in Ohio, uh, like two or three weeks ago.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

We've had them for years. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Definitely. So I do think there's something out there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

But, anyways, all right. So getting back to inoculation, what is behind the band name? How did you form that?

SPEAKER_02 10:14

So that goes all the way back. Uh, so I started inoculation when I was about like a junior in high school, and I'm 32, going on 33 now. So I've been doing it for like my entire adult life. It's my whole life and whole existence system. Damn, so you've got a lot into this. Yeah, yeah. So we we had like another band name in the beginning that we were like kicking around before we were really even playing shows or anything. I was just like writing music, and I had like a band name with me and like one of my buddies. And uh I was in biology class, and the teacher was talking, and he said inoculation, which is essentially like a shot. Like if you're getting a vaccine, you're getting an inoculation. So he was saying something like that, and my one good buddy Matt turned to me and he was like, That needs to be your band name, not what you have right now. That's way better. And I was like, Yep, you're right, and it's stuck ever since then. Yeah, so I always give Matt Mellinger credit for it. He came up with it, I didn't come up with it, but I said yes to it. Well, props to Matt. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I think it's a cool name too. I think so too. It's funny in like recent years, we've had people be like, Oh, you guys like a COVID-themed band. And I'm like, No, we've been long before any of that. Any of that.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Right, yeah. Uh pre pre or like pro vaxxer or all that, yeah. At least you get to avoid that. And you you've got your stance, you've got your mantra, it's all just about some kick-ass sci-fi riffs. So people don't be going around thinking that's vaccine related.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

No, not at all. Not at all.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

That would be, yeah, my goodness, that would get you guys into all kinds of uh political tiffs.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Yeah, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

Honestly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

So um, I just had a question and it left me. Oh, good. It was a really good one, too. Oh, yeah. So your van. Your van just like plum shit.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Yep, yep. In 2019, uh, and have toured like all over the country many, many times with it. We've always taken super good care of it. We've put like 100,000 miles on it, and then on the last tour, uh, we were driving on the highway in Pennsylvania. We had like two shows left, and the engine started sputtering while we were on the highway. And we were like immediately like, oh no, this is not good. And the engine pretty much blew up on us. One of the cylinders like exploded, so it got completely fried. Uh, and it was sad because that band was really like uh we always said it was the fourth member of the band. So we had to get a towed back, and we had to drop the last two shows of the tour, which was a super bummer. We never, we never never liked doing that, but it was just what we had to do, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

That's understandable, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Yeah. But luckily, um, we uh were doing pretty good on the tour, and then also we have a bunch of great fans that supported us and bought a bunch of t-shirts. We had people donate and give us some money. And we really sold a lot of merch uh after that and were able to get some funds up. Uh and we just bought a van, uh a new van on Saturday. So we are very excited about it.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Congratulations, it looks sweet. Are you guys? I mean, do you have to do a lot of work to it before you take it out on the road?

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Yeah, there's a decent amount of things. We got to rip out a bunch of seats. Um, and then uh with us being like a three-piece, we've always just toured with just a van, no trailer, and we have we had bunks built in our other one that we could sleep in the van very easily.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Yeah, so that was something that was really important with us to stick through because touring without a trailer is like so sick. Whenever we're on a tour, we're like seeing the other bands with their trailers, like looking for parking spots or like just maneuvering around. It's just we're always like, oh my god, I'm so glad we're not doing that. And I mean, our van's still big, it's still like not the easiest to find parking and stuff, but so much easier, and it's helps so much having the bunks that we're not having to spend money on hotel night rooms every night. Um, and this new van is like a full foot and a couple inches taller than our old van. So we can build three bunks now, so we can all have a bunk before Nick slept on the front seats, or not not the very seats. Oh my god, how uncomfortable. Yeah, so he was doing that. So now we're getting an upgrade. We got we'll be able to stack three bunks high. So yeah, we gotta we gotta rip out all the seats, we gotta build a couple like walls for like to be able to stack gear up high, uh, and then build the bunks. So we got a little bit of work ahead of us, but as far as the van like mechanical goes, we don't have to do anything. She thinks she's great. So that's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

Awesome. Well, who will who has to do the work? Are you guys gonna be doing that or do you have some help? We do for ripping the seats out.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Uh I work, I'm a plumber by day. Okay, sweet. So I have a lot of woodworking and just like hands-on uh skills. So uh we I we built the bunks before I did a lot of it. Um so we're gonna do it again, and I I kind of like head it and they help me out and we uh get it all figured out. I got a bunch of tools and stuff, and I build guitars too, so I got like I have all the stuff that I need to do to like build stuff.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

So so well I didn't see anything about anywhere mentioning that you build guitars. How long have you been doing that?

SPEAKER_02 15:56

Yeah, I've been doing that uh about like six years now. Uh the all the guitars I play for inoculation are guitars that I've built. There's one right there.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

There oh, that is so sick.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Yeah, it's called Xeno Guitars. Yeah, really cool. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

Well, that's something that you know you could uh you never know how far that will go for you, too.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

Yeah, yeah. That's uh I've I've gotten good response. I like build guitars for people. It's not just like uh me building guitars for myself. So that my eventual dream is to be able to quit my day job, go on tour, come home, build guitars, go on tour, come home, build guitars. That would be and take them out on the road with you.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

And yeah, it would all go together really well.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Yeah, and it's nice that like uh it's good promotion for my guitars going on tour, because then I'm like bringing these guitars, especially when they're like crazy shaped and stuff. People are always like, what the hell is that? And I'm like, it's my guitar company.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Have you met have you met anybody while on tour that uh also builds guitars?

SPEAKER_02 17:03

Yeah, yeah, I have met uh a few people. Uh there's one guy in the band uh Yotuma from Wisconsin that he builds guitars too. Um, I forget what his company's name, but that's always really cool to link up with someone else who's doing that because there's not a lot of people out there doing it, so it's awesome to like bullshit with someone about it and talk about what we do, how we do things and stuff like that. Me and him were chatting for like the whole show about it.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

So what got you into building guitars? Really, just like uh I mean, we know that you're you play guitar, obviously, but what made you decide that you're like when I was like younger, I never like uh paid anybody to fix my guitars.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

I just like figured it out. So it started with that, just like modding guitars, and then it slowly grew from there from modding to like building. And my dad uh had uh work construction and stuff, so he had a bunch of tools already. Uh so it kind of just started at first with me like coming over to his house, borrowing some stuff, and then eventually I started buying stuff, and it just kind of slowly rolled into building fully custom guitars. Guitars.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

Did you ever return the stuff that you borrowed from your dad? Or did he go to use it and he'd be like, Oh, damn it, Tony was over here. There is there's a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

I would return it usually after he would come over and be like, Hey, I need that back, and be like, Oh, yeah, here you go. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Yeah, the parent and me, I can I can definitely understand that.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Oh, that's so cool though, because uh doing that, I'm God, I'm just thinking of all kinds of ways that you could, you know, you could uh auction off guitars and you know, put them put them to use for a good cause or you know, just definitely support the band or a friend or anything. So yeah, I mean you it's the world is yours with that. Well, good for you. Good on you, Tony.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Thank you, thank you. I I love it, I love it. It's so much fun, like starting with a a block of wood and then give me a couple months and it's a guitar. It's just it's a cool seeing the process.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

Yeah, you're the first person I've met that actually builds guitars.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

So yeah, yeah, there's not a lot of us out there. Uh it's expensive to I've spent thousands and thousands of dollars on tools and stuff like that. And it's also really hard. I've fucked up a lot of things. Like, that's how I learned a lot of stuff. I didn't have anybody teaching me. I would, you know, watch YouTube videos and stuff, but like I have like a wall in my shop of like things I've messed up, like broken necks where I like fuck something up just to like to like remind myself on how to do things.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

Well though, to show where you're at and where you've been and you know how you've come along the way. So I think that's pretty cool. You should have that up there.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Definitely a good reminder. Reminder.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Yeah. Um, so I always ask this: what is something that you want the audience to take away when they hear inoculation?

SPEAKER_02 20:03

That's a good question. I want them to take away uh a fun of like listening to music and like how much like uh joy it can bring you, just like hearing sick riffs and like having a good time with it and hearing the fun that we have when we write music, because that's that's why we all do it, is because we I like it and it's fun. If no one listened to it, I would still be doing it. Um so um I just want people to enjoy it and and hear that uh fun that we have and have fun listening to it.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

Do you got any crazy um on the road stories that you can share?

SPEAKER_02 20:43

Um there's been there's been quite a few uh stories for sure. Um let's see. There's it's good, there's definitely a couple. Um one that comes out in mind right away is uh we were on tour with Revocation and um it was Revocation, Alluvial, and Chrisian. And uh the merch guy from Revocation, Blaze, and uh and the singer of Alluvial Kev took the fog machine out of Revocation's bus. This was that night when we were sleeping in our van. Uh, and they knew that we like left the back door unlocked in our van because that's how we had to get out of our bunks. We had to like slide out the back, so we needed to keep the back unlocked so we could open it and get out. And then in the middle, in the middle of the night, they opened up the back and stuck the fog machine in our van and fogged out our entire van. And the thing was that I was in my bottom bunk, which was like a coffin. So I slept through the whole thing. I didn't notice anything. But Nick and Charlie woke up coughing and got go opened the doors. There was like cheech and chong, there's smoke. Flying everywhere out. That was pretty funny. That was a good stuff, good time.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

They have anybody out there or anything like set up to record when you guys came out? Nope, nope. It was just all for the love of the game. Well, at least nobody died, right? Yeah, that's what we said.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

We were like, man, we could have suffocated. Suffocated.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Yeah, or like come out of there running just thinking that there was a fire or something.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

Yeah, yeah. It was funny though. It all it all worked out to be a nice harmless prank.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

What about at your shows?

SPEAKER_02 22:39

Anything crazy that you've witnessed in your shows from the fans or other people I think like a lot of the crazy stuff that happens at shows is like just like fights that will like break out sometimes. It's like inevitable. Like just that that's there's been a lot of people. Like people, what people that can't handle their alcohol or the mosh pin. And this is where on the Sangwasugebag tour. He started trying to fight one of the guys in Sangwasugebog, and they like pushed him away. I had to like put the dude in a headlock. And I had the dude in a headlock, and the like the guy, the security guard was like yelling at me to put him down. I'm like, dude, this dude's swinging like punches at people, and I just stopped it. He's like, put him down, put him down, and I put him down, and then he started throwing his fists again. And then one of the dudes from Bog grabbed him and threw him like freaking like 10 feet and it stopped. But yeah, definitely been some like crazy fights and just dealing with crazy people outside of shows late night and stuff like that. Yeah, it's good times.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Yeah, you just never know. Yeah. Well, typically, I mean, I'm sure that you guys get the mosh pit going too. So usually everybody pretty much knows how to behave in a mosh pit and what the rules are. Yeah. I think you know, I guess when people get out of line is when they have too much alcohol, then they get belligerent.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

Yeah, and I feel like people are pretty respectful when it comes to mosh and you know, we've always seen all seen like people fall down, and you know, people are always helping them up and stuff. So uh I think people are pretty respectful when it comes to that.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Yeah, for the most part they are. Thank goodness, right?

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Yeah, for the most part.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

So, what all do you guys have planned for this year? Um, I did see that here in April, I wanted to put the word out for you. So you guys are gonna be playing at the foundry, and then you're going to San Diego on May 18th. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

That is about to be I actually haven't seen that that got announced yet. But uh we do have a tour that is about to be getting announced. I know some of the uh venues have announced the shows. But we have a tour with Noxus coming up that I think is gonna get announced on like Friday. Um so hopefully whenever this comes out it'll be announced. Uh either way, it's fine. It's it's happening, so uh we are very excited. That's gonna be in May. That's so that's like right around the corner. We're bringing our good buddies and Noxus out, which this is their first time on the West Coast. So that'll be really fun. We're very excited. And it'll be our new vans made in voyage.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

Ice.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

Yes, very excited about that.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

To uh going out to San Diego, definitely where it's gonna be warmer too.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Yeah, yeah, hopefully not too warm, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

I saw too that um after that, um, I don't have the date down, but you'll be playing somewhere in New York. So you guys are kind of zigzagging all over the place.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Yeah, yeah. We're we're always trying to play as much as possible, really. So that that tour goes uh starts in Nebraska and ends in Texas. So yeah, yeah. That is good goes goes. What was that? Do you do all the bookings? No, we have a booking agent we work with uh satellite touring and they uh hooked up all the dates for this. We have in the past booked tours ourselves, but uh we found that it's easier to just let somebody else do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Yeah, that's a lot, that's a lot to handle, especially you know, if you've got a full-time job on top of, you know, keeping track of where you're gonna be playing your shows and trying to get your music recorded and out.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

So yeah, yeah. Something sometimes is you know, you gotta know when to compartmentalize and let other people take care of things for you. So and they got better like connections and stuff like that. So it's just easier.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

All right. So you've definitely got some shows lined up. Um, what about like for the rest of 2026? More shows, more gigs?

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Yeah, more shows. Uh, we have a new album all written. Um, we're hoping to go into the studio this summer uh to record that, which will be uh full length number four now, which is pretty crazy. So we are very excited to do that. Yeah, you guys are busy. Yeah, yeah. We try and stay uh busy. We we like it when it's busy.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

Sweet. Well, definitely let me know when you get the fourth one out, and um, I'd like to help spread the word for sure. I mean, I'm here for Ohio. Definitely. We gotta represent. We've got some sweet, awesome talent coming out of the state. The Buckeye.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Oh my god, so much, so much. There's always been, but it seems like, especially in the past like five, six years, there's been a lot, a lot of good metal coming out of Ohio. People are always like, what's in the water over there?

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Well, if we told you, you might not want to come visit. No, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

That's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

All right. Well, Tony, thank you so much for being on the show. I'm really happy for you guys. Um, awesome that you've got the new van and that you're still you really didn't, it didn't take you take you out of the beat a whole lot. Nope. So I'll be looking forward to seeing your upcoming shows and hearing about your fourth album when it comes out. And something I just always want uh, you know, the plug that I put in for my show too is just um parents, if you have kids at home and they show an interest for music or for the arts, please support them, help them pursue that, whether it's, you know, just looking into getting an instrument or, you know, playing different music or going to concerts or or what have you, uh support that because music and the arts, it it can do so much for the mind, body, and soul. And um it, you know, will set up the generations to come um in just spreading the love that music brings. So that's something I that's a passion of mine that I always want to play.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

I couldn't agree more with that. I started playing guitar when I was 12 years old, and I 100% credit it to my like happiness in my life. I've always had, no matter what's going on in life, I've always had a guitar that if I'm having a shitty day, I can sit down and play. Or I've always had band practice to look forward to. I think playing music is one of the best things that someone could do, especially uh being young. It's great for your mind, great for like meeting friends and stuff like that. My parents were super supportive of me. I I think about how they used to let me have band practice until like they used to let us jam until 10 o'clock every night, with me thinking about that now. I'm like, oh my God. So yes, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Yeah, you know, I I hope that there's millions of parents out there like that who, you know, would would do that or are doing it. I agree for sure.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

It's a great outlet. So definitely we gotta bring out more of the generation. So we gotta and we gotta keep the metal alive, right? Rock and metal.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

Definitely, definitely, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

All right, Ohio. So this is Chief Reds with the stand, and this is Tony with inoculation. Take a listen to the new Eat or sound. It's out there on all these different platforms.